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Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.22 18:57:54 -
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Are you picturing it:
A lone prospect flies thru a system and noticed a moon goo belt with no one else in local. He lights a covert cyno, and 20-30 more prospects are bridged into the system.
After filling up their 10km3 holds, they all make it back home, dump off the goo, and look for another empty belt to bridge into. |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.23 14:33:57 -
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While I would prefer to see moons keep their current diversity & scarcity, I'm willing to bet 315 isk that the quality of the moon goo field is based on what type of moon laser pulled the rock in.
Standup M Moon Laser I > r4,8,16
Standup M Moon Laser II > r4, 8,16, 32
Standup L Moon Laser I > r4, 8,16, 32
Standup L Moon Laser II > r4, 8,16, 32, 64
This would be overall bad for null because of moon equality making different regions less necessary to fight over, but I think it would be significantly better for low sec because now any moon in any low sec system can give r 32 & 64 if you put down enough isk.
Also, if this is true, and a corp can put down 3-7 of these in a system to create daily mining opportunities for its members, then t2 production might finally break free from Jita, and local markets might be more prolific and less dependent on JF scheduling. |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.23 15:04:17 -
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h4kun4 wrote:
May you explain how exactly tieing the quality of goo to the level of laser would impvoe Low and nerf null, because i dont get it?
If I'm understanding the current layout, r64 moons are not evenly distributed in null, and very rare in low.
Making any moon capable of r64 would make it less necessary to fight for space in null. I wasn't calling it a direct nerf, but poorly worded my point.
It would also improve the isk making capabilities of systems in null and low. Increasing the frequency of quality material is not necessarily a nerf to null, but definitely a buff to low |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.24 13:23:57 -
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Quote:Q: Will the new moon ore require new types of mining lasers and drones to mine?
A: Our current plan is to use the same mining lasers, strip miners and mining drones that currently mine the existing types of ore. We are interested in hearing what the community thinks about this however, and are keeping our options open.
This expansion is a pretty good chance for a couple of interesting additions:
1) Deep core mining skill and deep core miners to gain another use
2) A 3rd t2 mining frigate that specializes in moon goo (can fit covert ops cloak for ninja bridging purposes)
3) Moon goo rigs for exhumers & barges
To be honest I don't care if the same ships & equipment is used or not, I'm just throwing it out there that this is a chance to further specialize moon goo mining. |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.24 13:38:10 -
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Aleverette wrote:So... RIP lowsec and NPC nullsec moon mining?
These changes would seriously decrease t2 material outcome.
We don't know what the new output will be. Based on what we saw with the initial Rorq buff, do you honestly believe the new moon goo drop rate will be significantly lower than current levels? Especially since Rorqs can mine the new moon goo? |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.24 14:01:26 -
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Fredric Wolf wrote:
Do you really want to limit newer players from taking part in moon mining by requiring deep core miners. Now if you want to limit specialty crystals to deep core miners I am ok with that.
Deep core mining doesn't take that long to skill into, and the release is far enough away that you can get it before it goes live. Don't be lazy.
TigerXtrm wrote: Moon Harvesting - Ability to harvest resources from moon deposits. Level 1 unlocks a moon mining laser and the crystal for R4 moons. Each subsequent level unlocks an additional crystal for each type of moon goo, with level 5 being required for R64.
Advanced Material Reprocessing - Ability to reprocess mined moon ore, similar to existing reprocessing skills.
I completely agree with a new reprocessing skill. We have one for ore and ice. It would be more consistent to have one for the new rocks as well. |
Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2017.03.24 15:50:41 -
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Fredric Wolf wrote:
First off I already have the skill don't attack me because you can't be bothered to look and see that alpha clones do not have deep core mining on their skill tree. How about you not being lazy with your quick attacks
Let's try this again.
T2 production is one of the few industry areas that actually have some decent skill requirements to produce stuff. High skill requirements are a good thing, because it limits the number of people that choose to pursue that niche of EVE.
Do I care that alpha's can't use deep core equipment? no.
Do I care if CCP changes it so alpha's can use deep core equipment? no.
The skills and equipment required for a good moon goo operation should be based on how specialized the other areas are. Even gas harvesting has its own modules and skills.
Whether or not alpha's can participate should not lead the decision on how to set up the system. The system should be set up, and then alpha access can be determined afterwards. Does that mean alpha's gain deep core mining? maybe, maybe not.
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